Lyon Healy Piano Serial Numbers
This is the minimum information that must be provided for an assessment, identification, and monetary evaluation: 1. Good photos of the entire horn, back and front. A thorough listing of any and all markings, serial numbers, make/model names etc. Stamped or engraved on the instrument. Any anecdotal history of the instrument in question that might be available (Such as 'my grandfather bought it in NY, NY in 1940 I'm told' etc.) Condition and other details that require good photos AT A MINIMUM to accurately assess are paramount regarding a horn's value. Without that information, an accurate monetary evaluation is impossible.
I'll warn you that in the best of scenarios, C-melodies don't go for much money as a rule. They became obsolete by the early 1930's, and demand for them hasn't re surged yet. Hi Jim, You have what is known as a 'stencil' horn. The question is: when is a stencil not a stencil? A good description from my colleague Pete Hales will suffice as an explanation: 'The standard definition of a STENCIL is a horn made by a major manufacturer for another company or storefront.
A Guide to Dating Lyon & Healy 'Own Make' Instruments. This list is based on an information base of over 60 Lyon & Healy brass instruments which are engraved either 'Own Make' or 'Duplex/Own Make', from the establishment of the factory in 1896 until the largest known serial number. Lyon and Healy Pianos. Serial Numbers. 1880 - 10500. 1885 - 12100. 1890 - 13450. 1895 - 15000. 1900 - 17500. 1905 - 21000. 1910 - 24400. 1915 - 27100.
On receipt of the horn, the 2nd party would literally take a stencil and engrave their own design on the horn. Inline Image Stencils are generally variations on the major manufacturer's pro horns, but lack certian features (for example, Conn stencils lack rolled tone holes), were made with older tooling (for example, Buescher Elkharts were made with the Buescher True Tone tooling -- which was rendered obsolete about 10 years earlier), or suffered from poor quality control. The Lyon and Healy horns are different.
Lyon and Healy DID make some of their own horns in the early 1900's, including saxophones, but they couldn't really compete with the big names, so they decided to stencil some horns, but a little differently: they decided to DESIGN some of their own horns and have other companies make them'. Your horn appears to be one such example of Lyon Healy made by Martin (no relation to the guitar maker of the same name). Stencils nearly always worth less than their maker branded brethren, and as I said, C-Melodies are obsolete. I would encourage you to keep and cherish the horn as both a memento of your relative, as well as a remembrance of the golden age of Jazz and the saxophone. Any money put into it is warranted only by a labor of love, as you would be upside down monetarily should the intent to flip for profit be the motive. As a non player (I'm assuming), it would be that much harder to restore this yourself. Itil process maps v3 visio download.
Learning the ropes as a saxophone tech takes many years and much training. I am able to restore and work on my own horns, and can attest to the long road it takes to be able to do it properly.
Rather like asking if you can fix your own Swiss pocket watch as a complete neophyte. Not to be recommend but does happen. 😉 You might carefully polish the silver plate with a good, non abrasive cleaner such as Hagerty's.
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